Addendum:See an insightful post on this by Cal, here.
I know nothing of Jared Wilson. But I do know that he has gotten himself into some hot water with many a blogger out there. Wilson is part of The Gospel Coalition (which I do know of, in fact they are popularizers of 5-Point Calvinism in America today, and very effective at it through their on-line presence), but I don’t really want to get into what The Gospel Coalition is about so much, except for the fact that they are known for being prime advocates of what many consider to be conservative theological complementarianism (relative to gender roles V. something like egalitarianism, if you are unaware). Let me share the post in full, that got Jared Wilson (and by default, Douglas Wilson, whom Jared quotes) in the pickle he is in currently. Here is Jared’s post:
This passage from Douglas Wilson’s book Fidelity: What it Means to be a One-Woman Man was written 13 years ago, but I found it especially relevant in the wake of the success of 50 Shades of Grey and other modern celebrations of perverted sexual authority/submission. It is found in the chapter in the book on Rape, and Wilson argues that this sort of sexual pathology is a perverted version of good, God-honoring, and body-protecting authority and submission between husbands and wives.
A final aspect of rape that should be briefly mentioned is perhaps closer to home. Because we have forgotten the biblical concepts of true authority and submission, or more accurately, have rebelled against them, we have created a climate in which caricatures of authority and submission intrude upon our lives with violence.
When we quarrel with the way the world is, we find that the world has ways of getting back at us. In other words, however we try, the sexual act cannot be made into an egalitarian pleasuring party. A man penetrates, conquers, colonizes, plants. A woman receives, surrenders, accepts. This is of course offensive to all egalitarians, and so our culture has rebelled against the concept of authority and submission in marriage. This means that we have sought to suppress the concepts of authority and submission as they relate to the marriage bed.
But we cannot make gravity disappear just because we dislike it, and in the same way we find that our banished authority and submission comes back to us in pathological forms. This is what lies behind sexual “bondage and submission games,” along with very common rape fantasies. Men dream of being rapists, and women find themselves wistfully reading novels in which someone ravishes the “soon to be made willing” heroine. Those who deny they have any need for water at all will soon find themselves lusting after polluted water, but water nonetheless.
True authority and true submission are therefore an erotic necessity. When authority is honored according to the word of God it serves and protects — and gives enormous pleasure. When it is denied, the result is not “no authority,” but an authority which devours.
– Douglas Wilson, Fidelity: What it Means to be a One-Woman Man(Moscow, Idaho: Canon Press, 1999), 86-87.
Update: Please read the follow-up to this post. [See Jared Wilson’s original post here] ht: Brian LePort
Okay, so you got that? The Douglas Wilson quote in Jared’s post is obviously the controversial bit. As you can see, Jared was trying to offer a corrective to that grotesquely popular book in our culture about sex entitled 50 Shades of Grey. I suppose the irony is that the Douglas Wilson quote emotes pictures and images that are equally, if not more offensive than what is offered in ’50 Shades of Grey’ (I have not read this book, and don’t plan on it). It almost seems as if Douglas Wilson’s words simply make what is offered in ’50 Shades of Grey’ its “secular” parody or something.
Jared and Douglas Wilson are seeking to honor woman, somehow, by putting them in their proper position or role. And D. Wilson seeks to illustrate this “proper position” by providing the kind of picturesque language that he does in the quote above. I think his military-conquest language is what is most offensive; the man being the conqueror, and his female counter-part being the conquered. And this somehow is supposed to be a picture of the husband and wife relationship — that reflects the bride/bridegroom language in something like Paul’s Ephesians 5 context — say what?!
I don’t care what D. Wilson’s point originally was intended to be; the imagery he used to try and convey his point is simply repulsive and nothing like what we might find in the Song of Solomon — which is what D. Wilson has tried to claim in his self-defense — does the Song of Solomon really talk about a hierarchical relationship between the man and woman using explicit sexual-agrarian-military imagery? Nein!
Brian LePort said:
Amen Bobby. It is quite simply really. The analogy used is a far cry from Paul’s language in 1 Cor 7. This is not a giving of one to the other with both having a part in the other, this is one “conquered” and one “colonized.”
Bobby Grow said:
Yes it is ,Brian! It is unbelievable, and crude beypnd belief; like something Howard Stern would conjure up 😦 !
Gojira said:
50 Shades of Gray is actually part 1 of a trilogy. I think it is a shame that these books are so popular, as they present, albeit in a strange fashion, stereotypes found in all romance novels and the Lifetime Movie Network. The so called eroticism of it is sickening. The author of the series states her inspiration came from the Twilight series. As far as the noted post goes all I can do is shake my head and say ugh at the Gospel Coalition and Doug Wilson, who also wrote a book that defended slavery in the American south. Today is Thursday, which is my usual day to think 99% of today’s modern reformed leaders border on either hypocrisy or stupidity or both, so instead of voicing my frustrations I am going to watch the movie you wrote about two posts earlier on Netflix
Bobby Grow said:
Yeah, Gojira, I pray for Douglas Wilson; that he will see the light!
Gojira said:
Amen Bobby! I just read the initial Wilson quote again. That is so sad. Conquest. Penetrate. Plant. Egaliterian pleasuring party. These aren’t the words or view of a mature man in Christ; these are the sexist words of an immature teen boy, yet are spoken by a full grown man who SHOULD know better. Sad. Pathetic. I am truly at a loss for words. I mean if Jared and Douglas are that blind to what they have written (and they certainly are by their very words) then I most certainly and with a whole heart pray their blind eyes open as well!
Bobby Grow said:
Gojira,
It is a sad situation.
Cal said:
Bobby:
I just wrote a piece on this, let me know what you think!
Bobby Grow said:
Cal,
I like the way you took this, and I think D. Wilson’s broader theological commitments definitely inform and give rise to what he has written in the above quote from him. And I think you are spot on in identifying the problem as an issue of collapsing the kingdom of God (as its esse) into the political structures of this world instead of seeing Jesus Christ as the LORD over this world and his church, and thus seeing God’s life as the concrete ground of which is only then particularized in his body, the Church. In other words, we are not the masters, he is; and so when someone’s theology, like Wilson’s cannot make this distinction (exemplified in his bedroom apparently), then he needs to get a new theology … a Christ-formed one.
ali1 said:
Actually, I’m amazed at how this gets weirder the further away from the initial context and post it gets.
1. Jared is not Doug Wilson’s son. (Not sure where that came from Cal, but I suppose it’s understandable considering they have the same surname).
2. There is a lot of commenting by people not willing to do the hard work of understanding what the original people were saying. Drive-by outrage and lots of people fired up by other people’s opinions.
If you want what I consider the best critique of this whole thing up to this point, check out Alastair Roberts’ peice. I think the comment he wrote under the original post on Jared’s website is the best bit, and he included it again in his peice. Go here: http://alastairadversaria.wordpress.com/2012/07/20/triggering-and-triggered-1/
I’d love to see more solid engagement rather than hobby-horse knee-jerk reactions.
Cal said:
I picked that up from somewhere else and didn’t bother following up as it was relatively irrelevant. I didn’t know anything about Jared Wilson before this. I made the edits.
Bobby Grow said:
@Ali,
I read the linked blog post by Alastair, is that you? To me that post just seems like a passive aggressive post that wants to”appear” to be taking the high road–which I don’t see it accomplishing. The language in the quote from Jared from Douglas is disgusting! The imagery it conjures, cojoles in our 21st century context is debasing! I haven’t seen Douglas”back off” of the quote as it stands in any of his rejoinders, or provide the context and clarification that Alastair’s, is that you, calls for. So I thoroughly disagree with you and your interpretation of this! More later when I’m at my computer.
ali1 said:
Hi Bobby,
No, it’s not me. Nor can I see the passive agressiveness you see in the post. Perhaps the fact that he is measured and British that is causing you to make that mistake, especially in light of the fact he agrees that the words used in the context of the 21st Century Western world are not appropriate.
Read the comments and the responses he gives. Passive aggressive? (Sorry, I’m having trouble with that one!)
ali1 said:
BTW, in case you haven’t caught up with the latest:
http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/gospeldrivenchurch/2012/07/20/some-reflections-just-one-explanation-and-apologies/